Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Soviet shuttle Message-ID: <1988Oct7.165349.20174@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <1988Oct1.224801.11041@utzoo.uucp> <1109@cfa237.cfa250.harvard.edu> <1988Oct5.232401.15176@utzoo.uucp> <4938@hplabsb.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 88 16:53:49 GMT In article <4938@hplabsb.UUCP> dsmith@hplabsb.UUCP (David Smith) writes: >> Proton is not man-rated, by the way. > >Is there anything fundamentally un-man-ratable about it? Or is it just >that there has been no mission which requires the bother of getting >it man-rated? It's not entirely clear. Proton does, reportedly, give its payloads a fairly rough ride. There are people who claim that the Soyuz 1 disaster occurred because Soyuz 1 went up on a Proton. (For those who forget, Soyuz 1 had control problems after reentry, and possibly before, and its pilot (Komarov) was killed when the parachute straps tangled.) I'd guess that it's a combination of both: problems with Proton, lack of real need. Proton may be sort of a hacked-together booster in any case. Its upper stages look a bit big for its first stage, and there is speculation that the second and third stages were originally meant to be third and fourth stages for the "G" superbooster. The suggestion is that when the G was abandoned (after three launch attempts all ended in explosions), Proton was cobbled together in an attempt to salvage something from the project. Proton's first stage *is* kind of a weird design. -- The meek can have the Earth; | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology the rest of us have other plans.|uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu