Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!agate!bionet!apple!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!uwvax!oddjob!tank!uxc!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!a.cs.uiuc.edu!m.cs.uiuc.edu!kenny From: kenny@m.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Vandenburg never to used? Message-ID: <22000007@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: 10 Oct 88 02:46:00 GMT References: <41680@pyramid.pyramid.com> Lines: 23 Nf-ID: #R:pyramid.pyramid.com:41680:m.cs.uiuc.edu:22000007:000:1268 Nf-From: m.cs.uiuc.edu!kenny Oct 9 21:46:00 1988 /* Written 6:34 pm Oct 8, 1988 by henry@utzoo.uucp in m.cs.uiuc.edu:sci.space.shuttle */ In article <22000004@m.cs.uiuc.edu> kenny@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: >No, the risks were with the possibility of the polar ground track >presenting a risk to populated areas, even from Vandenberg (Can't >*anyone* spell Vandenberg?) Say what? Care to elaborate? Downrange from Vandenberg there is *nothing* but lots and lots and lots of empty ocean, so empty that the choice of emergency landing sites is extremely limited. /* End of text from m.cs.uiuc.edu:sci.space.shuttle */ True for the retrograde sun-synchronous orbits that we use for most polar-orbiting satellites. (And I don't like Isla de Pascua as a contingency landing site any more than you do.) If you work out the azimuth for the anterograde sun-synchronous orbit that one of the earlier postings was describing, or for an anterograde Molniya orbit, there *is* a problem with the ground track coming too close to Pacific Coast cities. That's why, if you look at the elements for metsats, for instance, Meteor and NOAA, you'll see that ours all cluster around inclination 99 degrees, while the Soviet ones (which don't have the constraint) cluster around 82.5 degrees; the Soviets can use the cheaper orbit.