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From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie)
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Subject: Re: The NeXT Problem
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Date: 19 Oct 88 18:21:46 GMT
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in article <23298@amdcad.AMD.COM>, tim@crackle.amd.com (Tim Olson) says:

> | Priced the ~8 MIPS Sun 4 lately?  Or the ~14 MIPS 88K chipset.  How about
> | an Apollo 10K?  RISC machines are starting to get fast, and they're even
> | starting to get down in price, but these two directions haven't met yet.

> It seems to me that most RISC processors are less expensive then their
> CISC counterparts.  The Am29000 pricing for 100 piece quantities is

> 	16MHz	$174
> 	20MHz	$230
> 	25MHz	$349

> I'm sure that LSI Logic could also show you very low prices on their
> RISC chips.  Last I heard, the 68030 was in the $300+ price range.

Alot of it depends on quantity.  I'm sure NeXT and Apple are buying their
68030s more that 100 at a time.  Many of the ASIC houses making RISCs are
output limited.  And with most of the RISC designs, once you pay the 
additional cost of caches and MMUs, you're way out of the 68030 league,
cost wise.  Complete systems I've seen with both MIPS and 88k put you
at around $1000 for the CPU subsystem.

> 	-- Tim Olson
> 	Advanced Micro Devices
> 	(tim@crackle.amd.com)
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