Xref: utzoo alt.next:227 comp.sys.next:119 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!decwrl!labrea!husc6!encore!bzs@xenna From: bzs@xenna (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: alt.next,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Questions on NeXT machine Keywords: NeXT Message-ID: <3952@encore.UUCP> Date: 22 Oct 88 20:57:37 GMT References: <17780@glacier.STANFORD.EDU> <[9.5]karl@ddsw1.alt.next> Sender: news@husc6.harvard.edu Reply-To: bzs@xenna (Barry Shein) Followup-To: comp.sys.next Organization: Encore Computer Corp Lines: 44 In-reply-to: karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM ([Karl Denninger]) From: karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM ([Karl Denninger]) >With regards to Next machines only being available to colleges: > >I hope Jobs comes around to reality soon... > >Failing to serve a major market segment that wants to purchase his machine >(ie: you and I, folks) is a big, big mistake. Being arrogant and saying >"you want one, go to college!" is not the answer. My guesses are that: A) The system is tailored to a specific form of University usage more than meets the eye (eg. the only real purpose of the removeable optical media is to be able to walk your world around campus and use any machine, for the rest of us we'd find the disk inadequate in speed etc as we wouldn't reap the benefits.) B) He's more or less sold all the machines he expects to be able to manufacture in the next year or two to commitments from Universities, so it's a kind of sour grapes comment from him. C) (More Cynical) He wants to tell you *you* can't have one, people fall for that kind of stuff. D) He's projected a marketing and support organization that can only adequately deal with University environments, such as having them provide their own service etc. Companies might be able to do this, but he may have found they are not willing to do this and would rather buy machines with full, external support. Note that this may not be a flippant decision, one of the hardest things about getting into the computer manufacturing business is figuring out, when you're small and new, how the heck to service that one machine in ColdWater Flats and not lose your shirt on such systems. This is particularly difficult with small, inexpensive systems where the margin is tiny. It could require one full-time person sitting in ole ColdWater waiting for a phone call, or flying people in when there's a problem. How could you do that for less than, say, $100K in equipment? Again, return to factory may be unacceptable in such situations. I dunno, you might be right, he might be wrong, but I think those reasons above, if true, (one more comma in this sentence and...) could belie some motivations which are understandable. (whew!) -Barry Shein, ||Encore||