Xref: utzoo comp.sys.misc:1761 comp.os.misc:545 comp.misc:3741 comp.arch:6550 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!killer!elg From: elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.os.misc,comp.misc,comp.arch Subject: Re: The NeXT machine has been announced! (long) Message-ID: <5806@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> Date: 14 Oct 88 03:57:40 GMT References: <360@elan.UUCP> Organization: The Unix(R) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 41 in article <360@elan.UUCP>, jlo@elan.UUCP (Jeff Lo) says: Nit #1: First you say: > haven't tried this yet). Mass storage is on a 256 MB removable erasable > optical disk! Jobs said that the removable media goes for ~$50. The display Then you say: > All in all, the machine looked good and fast, although I wonder about > the fact that several desirable things were not mentioned, i.e., color > monitors, X-Windows, some kind of floppy drive for software distribution, ^^^^^^^^^^^^ One question: Why the hell have a floppy drive when you have a 256MB removable erasable optical disk? AND, why the hell have a typical SCSI tape drive for archival purposes, when you have a 256MB removable optical disk? I suspect that the optical drive is there as a replacement for the traditional floppy drive or streaming-tape cartridge; it's too slow to use as primary data store. I suspect the typical NeXT installation will look much like the typical Sun installation (file servers, and "nearly-diskless" nodes), except for user files on the optical drive (heck, it's no speed demon, but it's faster than a floppy.) Nit #2: Bemoaning "No X windows!" is silly. From what I hear, X-windows is slow, clumsy, huge, and, generally, Typical University Software ("Free software that's too expensive to use"). The NeXT windowing system looks a lot more user-friendly, and probably is faster, more compact, and more efficient. About the color monitor: I've seen rumours that they're "working on it." In any event, color is mostly useful for CAD/CAE applications, while from looking at the software packages included, the NeXT workstation seems targetted at academia. I see no real problem (I'm typing this right now from a window on a monochrome system, although it's an Amiga, not a NeXT). -- Eric Lee Green ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 Lafayette, LA 70509 It's understandable that Mike Dukakis thinks he can walk on water. He's used to walking on Boston harbor.