Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!ucla-cs!loving From: loving@lanai.cs.ucla.edu Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Transmission line (was CMOS or ECL) Message-ID: <16939@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 18 Oct 88 19:59:16 GMT Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: loving@CS.UCLA.EDU () Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 18 I don't care who wrote it, but this was posted: >Transmission line effects on a chip? Just how big *are* your chips >anyway? The only reason that transmission line effects are not serious is because RC delays dominate. The speed of light is 29.979 cm/nsec; RC delays down busses on chips (1u lines, 1mm long, .01 ohm/sq, .03fF/sq u) are on the order of 0.3 to 1.0 nano seconds. This does not take into account the time to charge the gate capacitance of the transistor(s) at the other end of this 1000u long line. Now if we used transmission lines instead of 'RC delay lines' the time to drive the signal down the line would be somewhere on the order of c/2 (speed of light) or more like 1 pico second. 1 nano second is pretty killer on a 10 or 15 nsec chip. 1 picosecond would not be. Mike Loving loving@lanai.cs.ucla.edu