Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ames!think!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!bbn!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!b.gp.cs.cmu.edu!jsp From: jsp@b.gp.cs.cmu.edu (John Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: single-cycle 680X0 Message-ID: <3350@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 19 Oct 88 22:20:17 GMT Sender: netnews@pt.cs.cmu.edu Reply-To: jsp@b.gp.cs.cmu.edu (John Pieper) Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 22 Keywords: Actually, I heard a guy from Motorola talking about their n+1st generation 680X0 machine -- they run an internal clock at 2X the external clock, and play some other tricks to get 14 MIPS effective, 25 MIPS max @ 25 MHz. Seems to me that CISC designers could do this very effectively to get ahead of the RISC types (modulo the design time). BTW, as far as design time goes, you have to take the RISC argument with a grain of salt. the 68030 is only a little different that the 68020, but with technology advances and just a few man-years they more than tripled the speed of the initial 68020 release (in 82?). The 68040 will take the same basic ALU design, and add the FPU. This shouldn't require too much redesign. The point is that a good CISC design can be modified (added to) as quickly as a major redesign of a RISC chip. What really counts is who can sell their instruction set. ----------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------- John Pieper jsp@n.sp.cs.cmu.edu Computer Science Department Carnegie-Mellon University Pittsburgh, Pa 15213 "Supersonicous Siliconous"? What we need is Warp speed!