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From: pervect@bsu-cs.UUCP (Barrett Kreiner)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: Re: Source ARCs are inappropriate!
Summary: Excuse Me!?!
Message-ID: <4457@bsu-cs.UUCP>
Date: 23 Oct 88 06:17:26 GMT
References: <7119@dasys1.UUCP>
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana
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In article <7119@dasys1.UUCP>, tneff@dasys1.UUCP (Tom Neff) writes:
> After all the drawn-out discussion on the merits of net.binaries, I
> frankly never thought I'd see it perverted like this.  Merely ARC'ing a
> bunch of source (text) files does NOT create a "binary" worth sending
> in this newsgroup via UUENCODE!  Recent postings such as GYMAKE are
> wasteful and rude.
>
[Yum.. stuff deleted]
> 
> Tom Neff			UUCP: ...!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!tneff
> 	"None of your toys	CIS: 76556,2536	       MCI: TNEFF
> 	 will function..."	GEnie: TOMNEFF	       BIX: t.neff (no kidding)

Hello Net..  I'm the IBMPC/MSDOS archiver at bsu-cs.  I feel that Mr. Neff's
statements are untrue and have a big flaw: Note the following archive listing
(our site converts archives to zoo format.. whaddaya expect.. our sysop WROTE
it :-] ) :

Archive gy_make.zoo:
Length    CF  Size Now  Date      Time
--------  --- --------  --------- --------
    2314  57%      990  22 Oct 88 01:09:06     decl.h
    2131  49%     1078  22 Oct 88 01:09:06     default.mk
   13483  51%     6559  22 Oct 88 01:09:10     make.1
   17712  53%     8304  22 Oct 88 01:09:14     make.c
   21907  23%    16811  22 Oct 88 01:09:20     make.exe <--+
    2611  45%     1426  22 Oct 88 01:09:20     make.h      |
   17004  57%     7297  22 Oct 88 01:09:22     make.man    |
    1074  36%      687  22 Oct 88 01:09:24     makefile    |
   15235  54%     6999  22 Oct 88 01:09:26     parse.c     |
    1435  32%      977  22 Oct 88 01:09:26     readme      |
    3532  46%     1890  22 Oct 88 01:09:28     tstring.c   |
     751  37%      473  22 Oct 88 01:09:28     tstring.h   |
     975  22%      757  22 Oct 88 01:09:04     Message     |
--------  --- --------  --------- --------                 |
  100164  46%    54248    13 files                         |

Now.. does everybody see this entry? It says make.EXE (for those of you not
TOO familiar with the PC, this is a program for the computer to execute.)
Trying to stick this as a "sh" archive would be a good way to kill our
posting system.  Now, as for the high text vs exe ratio of this particular
posting.. as was made well known earlier, if sources ARE available..they
WILL go out with the executables.  Please find something else to grip about
as Mr. Moderator HAS:

1) standardized the postings headers/trailers That allowed ME to develop some
simple scripts to automate our archiving process.

2)  Controlled the amount of duplicate/nobody wants type postings..
  (do any of you remember the PICNIX postings.. Hmmmm?!?)

3) Keeps partial postings/bad archives off the net (i.e. it goes to IBMBIN
instead of the whole of Netland)

KRAK! Fizz.. *Snap* *Snap* crash --Aaugh!! 
(for those not psychic.. that was those flamers torching my soapbox)
Thank you.. and good day..
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