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Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: A killer problem in Oregon C++
Message-ID: <870@cps3xx.UUCP>
Date: 14 Oct 88 17:44:58 GMT
References: <7443@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>
Organization: Engineering, Michigan State U., E. Lansing MI
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in article <7443@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>, adtaiwo@royal.mit.edu (Ademola O. Taiwo) says:
> Summary: Now, that's not fair. Damnit it's NOT ethical!
> 
> In article <854@cps3xx.UUCP> usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) writes:
>>in article <151@sunquest.UUCP>, whm@sunquest.UUCP (Bill Mitchell) says:
>>> 
>>> A little over a month ago, we purchased Oregon Software's C++ package.  Much
>>
>>My recommendation?  Run G++ (with your own libg++ (to get out of
>>Stallman's strange copylefting)).
> 
> Why would anyone honestly want to get out of copy[->right|<-left].
> The one overriding reason I can think of is so that you can benefit
> from others' work without due credit to the owners of these rights, or
> even STEAL from the products of their sweat.
> If you use GNU products you have to respect the terms of the GNU
> license including COPY<-|->, but if you want to be a software hoarder,
> get a program from fellow hoarder.

This is neither the time nor the place to debate the Honorable Mr.
Stallman's ideas.  I do take offense at being called a "software
hoarder" and a thief!

Until the whole world comes into synch with the concept of "Free
Software", the independant software developer will continue to produce
products FOR SALE.  As a developer myself, I would quickly go bankrupt
if I were to produce my products and generously give them away.

The G++ compiler is an awesome piece of work, and I use it regularly.
The C++ library needed to produce C++ runnables is comparatively small,
and it is the only element that, if included in a program, implys that
that program is "copylefted", (as I understand it).

Mr. Stallman's original concepts, (from the article long ago in Dr.
Dobb's), were to offer the developer systems software that was free,
efficient and available in source form.  These ideas I heartily agree
with.  

If Mr. Stallman were to have his way, the independant developer would
cease to be independant.  Not all of us can or will work for others to
"make a living", allowing us to produce software in our free time.  And
most employers frown on personal development on company time.

Until these conditions change, I suppose I will continue to be a
"hoarder".  But I assure you, were the conditions different, I would
dedicate my talents, fulltime, to the Free Software Foundation.
"Why is it, everytime I see Dan Quail, I feel like buying a vowel?" -- Emo
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