Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:11877 comp.misc:3900 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cwjcc!gatech!ncar!tank!nic.MR.NET!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stc!datlog!dlhpedg!cl From: cl@datlog.co.uk (Charles Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,comp.misc Subject: Re: The Usenet Virus: a case history. Keywords: Orson Welles Message-ID: <890@dlhpedg.co.uk> Date: 19 Oct 88 15:12:39 GMT References: <2836@sugar.uu.net> Sender: news@dlhpedg.co.uk Reply-To: cl@datlog.co.uk (Charles Lambert) Followup-To: comp.misc Organization: FSD@Data Logic Ltd, Queens House, Greenhill Way, Harrow, London. Lines: 19 I have a question about Pete's "speedhack" fiction. Why would using the guise of a standard C library routine, such as malloc() or perror(), make the virus any more or less insidious? In Pete's scenario, the active code of the virus as scattered under innocuous names throughout the source. Is the well-known name a necessary hook? I wonder, too, whether a good static tracer like CSCOPE would help to reveal such a virus. As a general comment, I was delighted to see such a detailed dissertation about viruses on the net. The idea that we should not discuss hacking for fear of giving ideas away is fundamentally flawed. If knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness; and as a fledgeling system manager I don't want to be weak. ---------- Charlie