Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!apple!bionet!agate!ucbvax!APPLE.COM!brat From: brat@APPLE.COM Newsgroups: comp.os.v Subject: Re: comp.os.v Message-ID: <8810241845.AA15279@apple.com> Date: 24 Oct 88 18:45:36 GMT References: <8810240736.AA05856@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: inet Organization: The Internet Lines: 25 > Where can we get a V that runs on Sun-2 and Sun-3? We still only have > the V6.0 dated back to '86 which is backed by Vaxen. I think you're confused (no offense intended). You are getting V confused with VMTP and Unix. V is an operating system, not a Unix server, and it has been running on Sun2's and Sun3's for many years (i.e., V6.0, the latest release of V, runs on these machines). What you're concerned about is whether or not you can have file service on a Sun with disks -- this is a different issue, and, yes, I agree that this ain't so easy in V6.0. The file server that runs in V didn't work then (can I claim it does now?), so you're forced to use a Unix filesystem, and to get that to work you have to have our Unix server running on a Unix machine. The Sun Unix version of our server was done by David Ungar here at Stanford but is not supported. I can't speak for Dr. Cheriton's intentions of cutting a new release tape anytime soon, but in the currently experimental version of V we rely very little on Unix services (still more than we should). But this is a research project and I'm mostly interested that people recognize the ongoing interesting research in the V system. We only use Unix because to build up a complete software base comparable to that of Unix in an experimental operating system takes alot of effort and time. There's no clear reason to commit the resources to doing that, but a phenomenal amount has already been done in that direction. When I was working on the V system, I worked entirely in V except where I needed to modify the Unix server and use MH. Steven