Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Path: utzoo!henry
From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Specification of Berkeley networking utilities
Message-ID: <1988Oct28.184406.26583@utzoo.uucp>
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
References: <845@acer.stl.stc.co.uk> <1988Oct24.200243.19459@utzoo.uucp> <211@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 88 18:44:06 GMT

In article <211@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu> chet@pirate.UUCP (Chet Ramey) writes:
>Mike Karels... said he hoped that if that stuff got
>into Telnet, rlogin and friends could just fade away quietly without
>proliferating. 

I'm afraid he's being wildly optimistic.  The time to kill rlogin and
friends was five minutes before the 4.2 tapes started shipping.  It's
far too late now.

>(Christ, Henry, don't you ever have anything nice to say about Berkeley?
>Even once? (Henry? Say something nice about Berkeley? It is to laugh! :-))

You wound me, sir.  I said something nice about Berkeley just last year. :-)

Actually, they've done a lot of good stuff, and the world is better off
with them than without them, but the world (especially the networking
world) would be a nicer place if some of the effort that went into
(e.g.) 1986's wonderful new ideas had gone into rethinking and cleaning
up (e.g.) 1985's.
-- 
The dream *IS* alive...         |    Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology
but not at NASA.                |uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu