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From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: NeXT
Message-ID: <4992@cbmvax.UUCP>
Date: 14 Oct 88 15:38:45 GMT
References: <308@solaria.csun.edu>
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA
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in article <308@solaria.csun.edu>, ecphssrw@afws.csun.edu (Stephen Walton) says:
> Keywords: NeXT 68030 unix amiga
> Summary: It actually looks pretty nice

> I just read the alt.next posting on Steve Jobs's machine.  I think
> it'll give the Amiga a run for its money.  

Apollo makes a nice $10,000 68030 machine with windowing and UNIX.  They
probably don't have an educational discount (though you never know), but
I'm not in school anyway.  I can have a 68030 Amiga for considerably less.

> Oddly, our advantage is that we *don't* run Unix, and so a 4 MB Amiga
> has as much RAM for running user programs as an 8 MB NeXT :-).

Neither does NeXT, it runs Mach.  So take the amount of memory necessary for 
a nice System V machine, double it, and you get the amount of memory necessary
for a nice Mach machine.  Which is precisely why NeXT machines are standard
at 8 megs, though they apparently will have a 4 meg version available.  We
have 3 and 5 meg A2500s for similar configurations (cheaper, slower) under
System V.  If you really want UNIX.

The press release claims that 3 or 4 applications should run on the NeXT with 
out undue disk paging (to that SLOW optical disk).  Under the Amiga OS, 3 or 4 
applications run pretty nicely in 2 megs of memory, though of course we don't 
(yet) have virtual paging.

> Stephen Walton, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Univ. Northridge
> RCKG01M@CALSTATE.BITNET       ecphssrw@afws.csun.edu
> swalton@solar.stanford.edu    ...!csun!afws.csun.edu!bcphssrw
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