Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!ucsd!ucsdhub!esosun!seismo!uunet!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: CRETIN MANOR MAIL Message-ID: <5062@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 21 Oct 88 03:47:41 GMT References: <10181@cup.portal.com> Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 51 in article <10181@cup.portal.com>, thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) says: > Re: Christian Balzer's posting: > Though I've let my personal subscription expire (for various reasons (just > wish Steve Ciarcia would write his stuff someplace ELSE)) Circuit Cellar Ink. Haven't seen it yet, but I sent in MY subscription. Steve's been cut from BYTE, I think they mentioned December '88 as being the last one. Interesting advertising, too. The mail in card from the BYTE-Deck (ok, so I was bored one day) says something along the lines of "a worthy companion to BYTE". The direct mailing, which is the one I responded too, said things more long the lines of what many of us BYTE subscribers have been feeling, don't you wish there was still a magazine that didn't pander to advertisers, but instead covered technical hardware/software issues that you used to get in, say, BYTE circa 1978 (my words, but that was the basic idea). Looks like he's even signed up one or more of the artists that do BYTE covers. I don't like to recommend things sight unseen, but if this isn't a good rag, I think I'll have to stop reading. > As a matter of interest, everything regarding that product was done on the > Amiga except the PC board layout (had to resort to P-Cad on a highly modified > XT clone): my cross-assembler operates on the Amiga, and the manual was done > using WordPerfect (with illustrations produced on an H-P plotter direct from > Aegis' Draw Plus). Did you do schematics on the Amiga? It seems to me that PCB layout is far more mature on the Amiga than schematic capture. There are two PCB layout programs that I've seen (PCLO and ProBoard); haven't used either, Commodore has dedicated stations, and folks to work them, so I never have an excuse to lay out a design on my own. For Amiga schematic capture, ProNet 2.0 is about as good as a few MS-DOS programs I've tried, and certainly faster on an '020 based Amiga. But Neted it ain't. Amiga's beating UNIX as a development tool for any code I write, and WordPerfect has ousted nroff no problem. DNET put the final nail in the coffin of my C. Itoh terminal (used to keep it as a second terminal when I had something going in VT100, but DNET took care of that). I'm waiting for my copy of Professional Page to arive; I had occasion to try it here at work, and it looks great (I already had PageSetter, and it was definitely worth the $100 upgrade). All that's missing is a structured drawing program; I've tried Aegis, but that seems overkill for just banging out a few pretty pictures like system block diagrams or things I'd normally include in papers I write here. > Thad Floryan [thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ...!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad] -- Dave Haynie "The 32 Bit Guy" Commodore-Amiga "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: D-DAVE H BIX: hazy "I can't relax, 'cause I'm a Boinger!"