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Subject: Re: Hard Disk Performance tests, comments invited
Message-ID: <1744@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
Date: 22 Oct 88 04:17:40 GMT
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In article <8810211759.AA12878@cory.Berkeley.EDU>, dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) writes:
> 	It doesn't happen, at least not as bad as you suggest.  I've been 
> using my HD for a long while and have not have any significant performance 

	It depends on how you use your disk.  I use mine to hold
	compiler temp files, .o's, etc, ie a lot of write/read/delete
	churn.  I've seen degredation, but haven't calibrated on
	just how much.

> 	UNIX (Hint Hint), *NOT* Sun, UNIX.  Thank you.  I would like 

	Yes, Matt, Unix.  Don't they teach folks out there at Berkeley
	how to generalize? :-)

> softlinks, but that is all I care fore.  All the other junk is useful only
> in a hostile-multi-user enviroment and won't belong on a personal computer

	I run my Sun single-user but have other pseudo users running
	at the same time in the background, ie uucp, daemon for lpd, mail, 
	etc.  Maintaining ownership does not necessarily imply a multi-user
	machine.  This sort of protection is useful in the more general 
	sense.  

> 	mmm...  UNIX again.  Not true, there are three crash recovery
> mechanisms available on the Amiga:  The internal recovery system, the
> one C-A provides, and a PD one... probably even more.

	Uh, yeah right.  Diskdoctor, at least when I last used it, collects
	all the files into the top level disk directory and basically
	punts from there.  Sorry, fsck (although not great) does a
	better job.  And of course Sun Unix, (uh, ** Unix ** Matt) provides
	tools to back your hard disk to tape.  We need such things on the
	Amiga.  That come with the OS, out of the box.

> 	I wouldn't say that.  The only thing UNIX provides that I would want
> on my Amiga is VM, firewalls, and resource tracking (which you need for
> firewalls anyway).  The filesystem is right up there with most UNIX systems,
> at least as far as the single-user nature of the machine goes.

	And I suppose you don't want networking, networked window systems,
	extensible graphics devices, full mail support, etc?  Like it or
	not we have been playing catch up with Unix and albeit gaining
	some ground.  But not a lot.  I am not saying that I want Unix
	on my Amiga, just that I want everything that Unix provides +
	all that makes the Amiga special + a bit more.  We get there by
	analyzing the strong points of other (eg Unix, uh Sun Unix) systems 
	and comparing to Amiga state of the art; hiding one's head in the 
	sand by saying "The only thing I want..." is silly indeed.  It is what
	the market wants, Sir, not just what you want.

> 				-Matt

					Rick Spanbauer
					SUNY/Stony Brook