Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bu-cs!mirror!prism!jib From: jib@prism.TMC.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Blindness / pirating Message-ID: <242000009@prism> Date: 21 Oct 88 12:47:00 GMT References: <1523@netmbx.UUCP> Lines: 53 Nf-ID: #R:netmbx.UUCP:-152300:prism:242000009:000:2530 Nf-From: prism.TMC.COM!jib Oct 21 08:47:00 1988 RE: Software and copyrights There is some misinformation being passed in notes about rights and copyrights. This is not the right notes group to get into details (and some rights are not yet well-defined by the courts), but I thought I'd clarify a few things. FIRST, A CAVEAT: I am a lawyer (as well as a programmer) and I work for a legal publisher who also puts out software products. Nonetheless, the following are my personal (not professional) opinions, and are not to be considered formal legal advice. Someone said that you could not loan a book (or by analogy a program). This is simply not true under the copyright laws. If I own a copyrighted property, I may sell it, loan it or give it away and NO ONE (meaning the copyright owner) has any say in the matter. I may NOT copy it (that's why it's called COPY RIGHT), except as allowed by the law. Software (but not books and other materials) may be copied for backup purposes only because the copyright law was modified to allow it. As far as transfering software and licensing thereof: The copyright laws do not deal with whether you own the property or have a license to use it. That is a matter of contract between you and the seller. If, in fact, you only have a license to a software package, then you have only bought the right to use it, not to transfer it to someone else. BUT, and this is a big BUT, even though most software publishers state that they are licensing and not selling their software, when it comes to commericially available (as opposed to custom) software, chances are that the license is INVALID and you bought it. Why, because the publisher treats it like a product that is sold, (for example, via retail stores, distributors, etc with disclaimers of warranties, etc.) and because you did not really have any opportunity to agree to a licensing arrangement with the publisher. Despite what software publishers say, NO court that I am aware of has enforced such a license, and in fact, in Louisianna, which passed a law that said opened a shrink wrapped software package meant you agreed to be bound by the license terms, the courts struck down the law. ANY FOLLOWUPS SHOULD BE POSTED TO MISC.LEGAL. The above represents my personal opinions and NOT necessarily those of my employer. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Block jib@prism.TMC.COM {mit-eddie, pyramid, harvard!wjh12, xait, datacube}!mirror!prism!jib Matthew Bender Inc, 11 Penn Plaza, NY, NY 10001 (212) 216-8018