Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!gatech!ncar!umigw!umbio!bsherm From: bsherm@umbio.MIAMI.EDU (Bob Sherman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: more AppleLink--PE Message-ID: <805@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> Date: 24 Oct 88 06:57:24 GMT References: <8810232346.aa16996@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Lines: 71 in article <8810232346.aa16996@SMOKE.BRL.MIL>, AWCTTYPA@UIAMVS.BITNET ("David A. Lyons") says: >>Subject: Re: advantages of AppleLink--PE > To respond to the replies so far received regarding my AppleLink - Personal Edition review: Yes, Delphi has been around for several years, and there I must agree, it never really took off.. At least in the Apple section.. I doubt they will include the ACU software on the AppleLink software disk, since as they warn you before you download it, there simply is not enough room on the 3.5 disk to hold it.. I don't know how that applies to the 5.25 disk version.. Compuserve most certainly WILL send you a monthly bill upon request if you meet their requirements. They have been doing so for me for over 5 years now. So does the Source. If you have a good credit record, and pay your bills promptly, this method of payment has no ill effect on their cash flow, in fact, it SAVES THEM MONEY in that they don't have to lose the percentage points that the credit card companies charge them for each deposit. (varies from 1 1/2 % to over 4 %). Genie does have the same policy, and it has cost them the accounts of many Users Groups across the country, since they as groups DO NOT have credit cards.. Is there any reason that we should not demand and receive what is accepted in the business world as good business policy? That being that a vendor sends you an invoice, you check it for errors, and if correct, pay it.. Does any business you know of give YOU access to it's bank accounts or assets? The forum leaders, and many beta testers have been on ALPE since the beginning of the year if not before, with many months of free access, there is no excuse that during this time they did not do their homework and housekeeping to build the libraries. The libraries were already there when they first publicly showed the product last May at Applefest, and yes, the hundreds of people that attended that show and signed up for FREE ALPE software NEVER received it. When I asked Anne Artmeier (one of the Apple folks in charge of ALPE) about that at Applefest in Sept. she shrugged her shoulders and said she had no idea what became of all of those cards that were filled out.. 20 people sitting in a room chatting for an hour?? gee, at $6 per hour per person that is $120 an hour. They just love ya all the way to the bank. That is found money for something that uses almost no cpu time, and requires no storage what so ever.. The forum leaders also love you when you do this, because it puts royalties in their pockets from each of those 20 folks that are chatting in the room, that is the reason they try to promote so many chats within their section.. The longer they keep you within their forum, the more they make. Flash messages may have their place to some users, but I find it awful disturbing when trying to read something, or download something and having unsolicited messages jumping across the screen.. possibly even from someone I don't even know. This feature IS available on the Source, WITHOUT having to use their special software. It works there with any terminal software, however they also offer you the option to turn it OFF whenever you desire, an option that as far as I know ALPE does not offer. I think Compuserve has a version of it also, but am not sure.. I account for hundreds of dollars of online time every month on services such as Dialog, Nexis, Vu/Text, QL Systems, Data-Star, and each and every one of them sends out monthly bills to most if not all of their customers. You get the bill, and you pay it, no muss, no fuss, But YOU have control over your money, not them. -- Internet -- bsherm%umbio@umigw.miami.edu UUCP -- {uunet!gould}!umbio!bsherm Miami's Big Apple 305-948-8000 1200 baud 24 hours 8 years online