Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!BobR From: BobR@cup.portal.com (Bob BobR Retelle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit Subject: Re: Need a cassette tape drive. Message-ID: <10329@cup.portal.com> Date: 22 Oct 88 03:58:32 GMT References: <736@wsccs.UUCP> <4408@bsu-cs.UUCP> <2170@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 30 Oops... sorry about that... "macro fingers" hit "done" rather than "edit"..! Just to add to the discussion of how the cassette drive (C:) works on the 8-bit Atari... As Chris Chiesa indicated, the cassette device is a "special case", and does not operate as a normal SIO device. The POKEY chip translates the logic data into "two tone" audio (much like a modem does), then sends it to the cassette, which records it as regular audio. Reading data is the reverse process, with the audio "two tone" signal being translated back into logic data. Addressing the C: device with a LOAD "C:" or SAVE "C:" is what puts this method into action. A normal audio cassette recorder *will* work, but not very well. The problem is that most audio recorders have too *good* a frequency response, and are designed to work with sine waves... the Atari data recorder has circuitry to clip the audio, square it off, and restrict the frequency response to the narrow range of tones coming from the computer. Thus, using a Walkman *may* work, but not as well as a 410/1010... I used to sell Atari software and experimented for a time with multiple recorder set-ups to do mass duplication, and the results were never very satisfactory with audio recorders... (but what the heck... give it a try..!) In answer to the original request for information about obtaining an Atari cassette recorder, there is a company called B&C ComputerVisions which advertises in the Atari magazines, I see their ad in the November '88 ANTIC magazine. They used to list the cassette drive very cheaply, and may still have them. Other ads in the magazines may be worth calling too... BobR