Path: utzoo!yunexus!geac!syntron!jtsv16!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!amdcad!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!DK0RRZK0.BITNET!AEE05 From: AEE05@DK0RRZK0.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Re: Atari fair at Duesseldorf Message-ID: <8810251755.AA05212@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 25 Oct 88 17:57:33 GMT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8810251755.AA05212 Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 63 X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1988 13:52:55 CET In article <0907881307> mcvax|np1|nikhefh|t19@uunet.uu.net writes: >> ... Prospero Fortran and Pascal ... > >I have heard nothing but horror stories from users of these >(not the latest version, though). Many bugs and slow. Use >Absoft for Fortran, don't use Pascal. > ^stuff deleted! I'm using ProPascal and ProFortran for approx. 2 years now. Due to my positive impression I feel obliged to contradict Geert in his opinion concerning these compilers. Many bugs ... Latest versions (i.e. 2.13) are free of fatal bugs, maybe they're still a bit rough around the edges. 2.11 had some bugs, yes. ... and slow Compiler front end is slow, linker is even slower. But the code is quite fast| I'm sceptical about compilation time enthusiasts. They all liked T*rbo Pascal 2.x and 3.x on the small I*Ms. They are totally happy about new concepts in Rev. 4.0 now, i.e. the modular compilation feature ("units"), for example. Well, Prospero compilers did it all the time ... Prospero are the only ones who offer not only 68881-libraries but even 68020/68881-libraries for all their compilers (i.e. Fortran, Pascal, C). You just have to relink your programs, no source modification at all. They offer a real language family. You may use Assembler routines in Fortran functions called by Pascal procedures re- ferred to in a main program written in C and vice versa. Saves lotta time for a team of programmers, really| Their interest in feedback from users is big, their hotline is as good as the rest of their service, as updates are free of charge, for example. Summarizing, ProFortran and ProPascal are no tools to write quick'n dirty hacks, ok. But at least for any other, bigger job they're the best I know - up to now... Disclaimer: These are the opinions of a satisfied customer - nothing more. ____________________________________________________________________________ Udo Keller Dept. of Theoretical Biology Inst. of Developmental Physiology BitNet: aee05@dk0rrzk0.bitnet University of Cologne ------------------------------------ SloNet: Gyrhofstr. 17 "While Eeyore frets... 5000 Cologne 41 and Piglet hesitates FRG and Owl pontificates ... Pooh just _is_." __________________________________________________________________________ ?