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From: pss@unh.UUCP (Paul S. Sawyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Editing binaries
Summary: Some of us aren't trusted with tools...
Keywords: sysV
Message-ID: <700@unh.UUCP>
Date: 20 Oct 88 21:18:31 GMT
References: <286@mccc.UUCP> <390@westmark.UUCP> <305@mccc.UUCP> <1162@mrspoc.UUCP> <2966@ci.sei.cmu.edu>
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In article <2966@ci.sei.cmu.edu>, pdb@sei.cmu.edu (Patrick Barron) writes:
> In article <4596@mtgzz.att.com> avr@mtgzz.att.com (a.v.reed) writes:
> >[...] Just read them in with
> >:r !od -c file
> >and write them out, after editing, with
> >:w !rod -c >file
> >which is a piece of cake. So please don't tell me I can't do something just
> >because YOU don't know how. Some of us use tools, you know.
> 
> And please don't assume that we all have whatever tools you have.  Where
> do I get this "rod" command (which I assume is "reverse octal dump")?  It
> doesn't exist on 4.3BSD, Ultrix 2.2, or my Unix PC (under Unix 3.51) at home.
> 
> --Pat.


Nor, on my AT&T Unix 2.1.2...  Interesting that Mr. Reed speaks to us in such
a helpful manner from the company that, since they first provided my Unix O.S.,
has taken away from me, via upgrades and policy changes, such USEFUL UNIX 
TOOLS as NROFF and DIRECT E-MAIL to themselves...  And who hardwired /usr/mail
in the first place...

Yes, I could write ROD;  an aquaintance was speaking to me recently (but 
before this topic came up) about just such an approach, even to using the
od -c output to start with.  But I guess I really should buy the OCTAL DUMP
READER'S WORKBENCH...   8-)

In the spirit of UNIX TOOLS and the NEWS, etc, Mr. Reed, couldn't your posting 
have been more like:

  "In VI, I use ':r! od -c file', edit the resulting octal representation, 
  then 'w: !rod -c >file'.  ROD is a useful utility from --- which reads OD
  output back to binary form...."

Please don't cast stones - - you may break our remaining tools!

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