Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!spdcc!ima!haddock!suitti
From: suitti@haddock.ima.isc.com (Steve Uitti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Black Apple (problems installing systems)
Message-ID: <9601@haddock.ima.isc.com>
Date: 18 Oct 88 18:12:17 GMT
References: <1052@microsoft.UUCP>
Reply-To: suitti@haddock.ima.isc.com (Steve Uitti)
Organization: Interactive Systems, Boston
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In article <1052@microsoft.UUCP> t-stephp@microsoft.UUCP (Stephen Poole) writes:
>I installed system 6.0.2 on my Mac II yesterday.  I initially used the
>Installer program to install the minimal Mac II/IIx system.  Things seemed
>to work under this, but the normally multihued Apple (as in the menu title)
>was solid black.  Installation by dragging the System folder cured this
>problem.  Any ideas as to what's going on?
>-- Stephen D. Poole -- t-stephp@microsoft.UUCP -- Mac II Fanatic --

	About a month ago, I upgraded to system 6.0 on my Mac II.  A
friend upgraded his SE to 6.0 at about the same time.  We both used to
the installer to do the upgrade.
	My friend found 6.0 so buggy that he reverted to 5.4 (or
whatever his previous system was).  This was now newly just as buggy.
He solved his problems by erasing his hard disk and installing 5.4
from scratch.  (By doing selective restores, he cleaned up all sorts
of cruft on his hard disk at the same time).

	I upgraded to 6.0 and found it buggy.  I too erased my hard
disk and did a system install from scratch (but installed 6.0).  The
result was very usable.  (I restored everything as I have twice as
much disk, doing a clean up later).
	Since then I have run into a few bugs.
	Sometimes I'll insert a floppy, and it won't show up on the
desktop.  Command-e (eject) works (but not from the menu), putting the
disk on the desktop.  I can then insert the disk again, and everything
is fine.
	The moral of the story is that the installer is broken.  Damn
shame.  It is very convenient.

	Sometimes a folder refuses to believe that all the stuff in it
is visible (the scroll bars think there's more to it).  Closing the
folder (sometimes rebooting) will generally fix this.
	Map is (nearly) useless.  It will let you set your timezone in
the PRAM.  Having this set to Greenwhich has never bothered me in the
past.  Having played with it, I've ditched it.
	MacroMaker is brain dead.  It breaks things, slows things down
unbearably, and some macros only work until next reboot (like the
trick for alphabetizing icons in a folder).  Maybe I'm missing
something.  Having played with it, I've ditched it.
	None of my F keys ALWAYS work.  Sometimes they crash the
system.  I can't seem to get key bindings to them to work right.  I
used to use Switch-A-Roo, blast-key, and 68020 cache.  68020 cache may
still work, but I don't seem to need to turn off that cache ever
(doing so has never caused something that is broken to work for me).
	Still, fish! works.  That's something.
	I now invariably use Multifinder, rather than only when I have
to (LSC debugger).  Booting with the command key now and then to get
the single finder is easier than Set Startup all the time.

	One day, I'll get System 6.02 and see what bugs were fixed
(but I may have to come down with the flu again for two weeks to try
it out - I'm not looking forward to it).

	Installing things has been one of my favorite pastimes.  This
is probably because, when it comes down to it, I don't have any real
problems to solve (not really true).  I've never seen an installation
system that worked.  Come to think of it, I don't recall seeing a
nontrivial bug free program of any kind.  One would think that this
makes me a good Beta test site.

	Stephen.