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From: steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: vi for the Mac
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Date: 26 Oct 88 15:38:06 GMT
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In article <7680@boring.cwi.nl> jurjen@cwi.nl (Jurjen N.E. Bos) writes:
#>In article <8400037@m.cs.uiuc.edu> rudolph@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
#>>
#>>While in general I certainly prefer Mac style editing to vi, there is one vi
#>
#>>[remark that vi can mark locations and jump to them]
#>
#>>Anyone have any idea why it hasn't been implemented in any major editors, or
#>>know of any that do have it?
#>
#>Why?  I think the main reason for having marks it the ability to quickly
#>jump to a certain part of the file.  I find the scroll bar to the right
#>easier to use, faster, and more powerful.  I never want to _exactly_ jump
#>to an earlier location, only to about the same place.  A scroll bar is just
#>what I need.
#>-- 
#>  -- Jurjen N.E. Bos (jurjen@cwi.nl)

It seems that you don't do much cut and paste editing. Many's the
time I want to move a block of text from page 12 to page 5 and
wish I could type '' to jump back and forth. To use the scroll
bar, I have to remove my hands from the keyboard, pick up the
mouse, and scroll two or three times until the appropriate screen
is visible. Then I have to click on the correct location. Let's
face it: a mouse is very handy for many kinds of graphical
manipulations. But for precise editing of text, it is frequently much
more cumbersome than a command editor. Anyone who has ever had to
drag two or three times to select just the text to be changed
knows what I mean.

Steve Goldfield