Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!hplabs!hplabsz!mayer From: mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: NeXT mail system // CMU Andrew System // "groupware" software Message-ID: <2463@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: 21 Oct 88 02:56:54 GMT Reply-To: mayer@hplabsz.UUCP (Niels Mayer) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Lines: 34 Could someone who has used the NeXT mailer comment on it's functionality. The pictures I've seen of their mail program makes it look like a pretty standard mailer. There seemed to be a bitmap with a face on it that perhaps shows the face of the person sending the mail (like Marshall Rose's extensions to mh for systems running face-server software + X windows). The buttonbox icons didn't indicate to me that the mailer has any particularly elaborate filing and searching capabilities. If it does, I'd love to hear about 'em. And what of voice mail. How does that work? Is voice data compressed, uuencoded, and attached to the mail file sent across the networks? I've heard rumours that there are some connections between the Andrew project at CMU and NeXT. In particular, that NextStep is layered ontop of something akin to the andrew toolkit. How true is this, and to what extent will NeXT software be able to exploit Andrew-like concepts such as graphical/voice/musical/active insets in documents. Is the NeXT mailer in any way akin to the Andrew Message System? Finally, does anybody have a line on CSCW (aka "groupware") software being prepared for the NeXT system? Colab-like software to allow groups to meet (real time) and work on design and idea-exploration through a bunch of networked NeXT computers. Extensions on the mail system to allow for structured messages to be created and automatically processed (a la Information Lens, Action Technologies Coordinator, etc). Seems like this sort of software would be very useful for using computers in an educational environment, as well as in the office. Higher education is already tending towards turning learning into an individual endeavor... I hope that the NeXT's vision of the future of higher education is not one in which we all plug into our little "smart TV's" and begin clacking away, oblivious to the world and to other people. -- Niels Mayer.