Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ames!think!bloom-beacon!spdcc!lexicon!rk From: rk@lexicon.UUCP (Bob Kukura) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Mach features? (Re: Paging and swapping to a removable disk?) Message-ID: <315@lexicon.UUCP> Date: 21 Oct 88 16:03:20 GMT References: <12670001@eecs.nwu.edu> <3924@encore.UUCP> <3352@pt.cs.cmu.edu> <73838@sun.uucp> <4200@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Organization: Lexicon, Inc., Waltham, MA Lines: 38 In-reply-to: bernard@boulder.Colorado.EDU's message of 20 Oct 88 23:48:34 GMT In article <4200@boulder.Colorado.EDU> bernard@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Bernie Bernstein) writes: Oh yeah, and let one CPU manage the paging for the entire network. Then we can see some real wild thrashing.:-> I think what is necessary is paging to the local disk. It should be a fast one, so if the seek rates on the optical disk are above 30ms, then perhaps a Wren (16.5ms) or some other traditional hard disk should be used. Otherwise, we can keep the optical disk in and go along with Ralph's hypothesis: don't let the disk out unless we're ready ... Since MACH can swap to free space on any filesystem, I would set up NeXT machines in an NFS network environment as follows: * boot from a network server * mount root, /usr (and /var) via NFS, with all NeXT machines sharing the same /usr * install a small fast winchester disk on each machine mounted as /tmp and swap on this * mount the floptical disk as /usr/user with some hack so that it is automatically mounted when it is inserted and unmounted when it is removed This setup seems pretty optimal to me in terms of performance, administration, user convenience, and security. Swapping and most file writes of a temporary nature are on the winchester, so they are fast and don't wear out the floptical disk. All system software and educational software is centrally maintained, with no system configuration local to the machine. The /tmp filesystem could be recreated each time the machine boots. Users take their own files and software with them on their floptical disks. -- -Bob Kukura uucp: {husc6,linus,harvard,bbn}!spdcc!lexicon!rk phone: (617) 891-6790