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From: casseres@Apple.COM (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG
Keywords: WYSI*A*WYG
Message-ID: <145@internal.Apple.COM>
Date: 25 Oct 88 19:34:27 GMT
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Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA
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In article <15757@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield) writes:

>... in PageMaker. In one case, I drew a jagged line
>across the screen and tried to put bullets on the nodes.
>... One of the bullets
>printed about half an inch away from the node it was supposed
>to be coincident with and which it was coincident with on the
>screen. I phoned Aldus at the time, and they admitted that
>such things could happen. [I admit that I don't know if this
>is just a bug or laziness on their part or an inherent problem
>as Aldus claimed.]

HALF AN INCH?  If it's an "inherent" problem, it's inherent in Page-
Maker, not in any part of the Mac system.

> In a second example, which has happened to
>me twice, my screen showed a box, but the laser printer failed
>to print one of its corners. In that case, I copied everything
>into MacDraw which printed the box in its entirety.

Which demonstrates that this one, too, is a PageMaker problem.

>If the problem is only the inferiority of PageMaker, it isn't
>worth discussing here except to warn people away from it. But
>if something more fundamental in the interaction between
>applications and the Mac screen and laser printer is going on,
>then I for one would be interested in knowing what it is and
>what real limitations it imposes on application programmers.
>And for this news group, I'd be interested in knowing if the
>problem is eliminated on the NeXT.

I assure you there is nothing more fundamental than an application
bug here.  There ARE fundamental problems with WYSIWYG, but they
show up in much more subtle ways -- not half-inch errors and missing
parts of objects.

David Casseres