Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-tis!lll-winken!scooter!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NeXT Memory - No Error Checking or Parity ! Summary: Looks like there isn't any parity checking there Keywords: Memory,errors,parity Message-ID: <1382@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 26 Oct 88 20:35:58 GMT References: <549@gt-eedsp.UUCP> <3569@phri.UUCP> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 27 I'm looking at the photo of the motherboard for the Next computer on page 164 of the Nov. 1988 issue of Byte. The SIMMS would appear to be 8 * 1 megabit chips. The accompanying text says that it is 100 nS memory. There is also a set of four 8K * 8 bit (possibly HM6164?) cache chips. The accompanying text says that they are rated at 45 nS. There are also four chips identified as "custom memory buffers" adjacent to the SIMM array. Last of all, there is 256K of VIDRAM. For the 32K static RAM, 24K is given to the DSP chip, and 8K goes to the disk controller. Apparently the LSI DMA chip must have some internal smarts. They do mention that there is a DMA burst mode that allows 4 long words to be fetched in 9 cycles. The SCSI controller is a 5390. The chip is marked NCR in the photo, but I can't find it in my SMS/OMTI catalog. I'm willing to believe the quoted 4 mb/s transfer rate. I don't know about lack of parity of error correction hardware. Relative to some of the other goodies included, it doesn't seem like it would have been that hard to include .. even if it was just parity. I'd like to know when my box is making a mistake. When I looked inside the Mac II, there didn't seem to be any sort of parity or error correction there either. I hope that the kernel does its own sanity checking in lieu of hardware. --Bill