Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!THRUSH.STANFORD.EDU!jim From: jim@THRUSH.STANFORD.EDU (Jim Helman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi Subject: re: 4Sight, X or NeWS? Message-ID: <8810202336.AA03068@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 20 Oct 88 21:07:10 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 23 We have a 4D/70GT, a wonderful machine that is damn fast for lots of things. Sadly, X is not one of them. The X support is EXTREMELY SLOW for doing things like scrolling a window. It takes several seconds to scroll an 80 column, full screen height window. I'm hooked on gnuemacs with mouse and was very disappointed when I realized the speed of 4Sight's X11 support makes the machine unusable for this and many other X applications. It might get better in a release (it improved somewhat in the last release) or it may be a fundamental problem with doing bitblt style operations on the GT hardware. (Any comments from SGI on this?) In any case, it's forced me to do all my editing using X11 on a nearby VaxStation GPX. I only use the SGI screen for actually running my graphics programs. This is safer anyway, since while debugging a graphics program, a bad graphics library call can cause the window manager to die and take the whole console session with it. I don't know if 4Sight's NeWS has better pixel performance, but normally I would expect X to be better than NeWS for raster image operations, since X is built around a raster imaging model. Jim Helman Department of Applied Physics Stanford University