Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:4116 rec.photo:3539 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!think!ames!eos!jbm From: jbm@eos.UUCP (Jeffrey Mulligan) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.photo Subject: Re: Xenon flash tube sources Message-ID: <1774@eos.UUCP> Date: 21 Oct 88 00:21:08 GMT References: <944@ritcv.UUCP> Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, California Lines: 55 From article <944@ritcv.UUCP>, by cep4478@ritcv.UUCP (Christopher E. Piggott): > (1) RADIO SHACK: > Part number 272-1145 - $3.95/ea > Trigger: 4Kv, Anode: 200-300v > (with a data sheet, but not amazingly helpful) > I don't know how to use either of these tubes!!! I posted to > sci.electronics last month about how to make use of them with a 12vdc power > source, and got *NO RESPONSES*. If you can help me, get in touch by mail > (preferrably bitnet, as it's more reliable). Thanks, and good luck, Steve. In my college days I did a lot of playing around with the R.S. tubes. I was using a power supply of around 160V dc (This was just the 115V ac run through an isolation transformer and rectified). The flash capacitor was a big thing, a couple of microfarads rated for 400V. A prof. put me onto a cute trick to get them to recharge to double the supply voltage: they recharged through a series diode/inductor. The inductor kept the recharging current low until the gas had de-ionized, while the diode kept the flash capacitor from discharging back onto the supply capacitors. The charging curve looked like a half cycle of a sine wave. Radio Shack also sells the little trigger transformer for these guys. I used an SCR to discharge a small capacitor through the primary to get the kV needed to ionize the xenon. My memory is a little hazy here, but I think I needed a transistor to inject enough current to trigger the SCR from ttl control signals. I also used opto-isolators between the high voltage stuff and the logic circuitry. Things were great until I started trying to get the things to strobe at 1kHz (don't ask why). I ended up making my own inductors to get the right L value for a 1 ms recharging time. Unfortunately, the inductors I made (magnet wire wound onto a half inch steel rod) had too much resistance (a few hundred ohms), resulting in a non-neglible charging current at the end of the flash. What happened was that these babies would strobe at 1kHz for a few seconds at which point they turned into arc lamps- i.e. the gas just stayed ionized and shorted out the power supply. At this point they were HOT! The moral was I wasted a lot of effort designing a fancy system around a $3 flash tube for which I had no data sheets and couldn't perform in the way I wanted it to. I have a nice catalog from EG&G describing their line of flashtubes, they do give specs, but of course their stuff is expensive. Impressive stuff, though, like the 4 ft. water cooled flashtube used for aerial phtography... -- Jeff Mulligan (jbm@aurora.arc.nasa.gov) NASA/Ames Research Ctr., Mail Stop 239-3, Moffet Field CA, 94035 (415) 694-6290