Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!bu-cs!purdue!decwrl!labrea!agate!eos!eugene From: eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Shuttle computer reprogramming Message-ID: <1700@eos.UUCP> Date: 12 Oct 88 07:13:19 GMT References: <6689@nsc.nsc.com> <47200001@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Calif. Lines: 28 You see understanding the problem is very simple (based on the one thing I help launch). Solving it is tough. You have this vehicle which has to traverse the thickness of the atmosphere, but it's not that simple, the stuff moves in different directions at different altitudes. Slight differences may mean big expendatures of fuel later down the flight path. It's like the difference real and apparent velocity in a plane. Don't forget it's all transparent up there. I ask you the wind direction and velocity at 30K feet can you tell me just by looking? I doubt it (p.s. I want [u,v,w] not 95 deg. true/39 knots). The Shuttle has a unique problem: it's got wings. These get in the way, cylinders have few forces working on them (I had an Atlas). The wings are trying to "lift" (not a good word since it's upside down). The nunber of vectors to describe the forces acting on a flight path in thick atmosphere gets complex. The Shuttle can't sense wind very well in flight, so weather ballons are sent up before hand. It's just a mess. Just deal with things in orbit and let the aerodynamics people deal with these problems ;-). Another gross generalization from --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@aurora.arc.nasa.gov resident cynic at the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: "Mailers?! HA!", "If my mail does not reach you, please accept my apology." {uunet,hplabs,ncar,decwrl,allegra,tektronix}!ames!aurora!eugene "Send mail, avoid follow-ups. If enough, I'll summarize."