Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!linus!mbunix!bwk From: bwk@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Barry W. Kort) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Limits of AI Summary: Progress in AI may be an unbounded sequence. Keywords: Infinity, Maximum, Unbounded Sequence, Peano Lessons Message-ID: <41682@linus.UUCP> Date: 9 Nov 88 18:57:27 GMT References: <1651@ndsuvax.UUCP> <1666@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> <3802@cs.utexas.edu> <2413@cs.Buffalo.EDU> <3833@cs.utexas.edu> <2149@bucsb <3876@cs.utexas.edu> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Reply-To: bwk@mbunix (Kort) Organization: The Gallimaufrey, Atsea, UK Lines: 27 In article <3876@cs.utexas.edu> berleant@cs.utexas.edu (Dan Berleant) argues in support of his thesis > "if we can build a machine smarter than > we are, we can obtain a machine of infinite -- or at least > maximum possible -- intelligence." Dan, the ability to augment a system does not automatically imply that it can be infinitely augmented or that it can be augmented to finite maximum. Suppose that the degree of intelligence of a system could be mapped onto the counting numbers: 0, 1, 2, 3, etc. Suppose that you knew how to take a system of intelligence n, and use it to build a machine of intelligence n+1. Then you could build a machine of any finite intelligence (there is no theoretical maximum), but you would never arrive at a machine of infinite intelligence. Thinking about infinity is a little tricky. Georg Cantor created quite a furor when he came up with a meaningful way to think and talk about transfinite numbers. I think you would enjoy a course in Abstract Algebra, where such ideas are carefully developed. --Barry Kort