Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!ucsd!sdcsvax!amos!hartung From: hartung@amos.ling.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: SEZ: a suggestion for the next version... Summary: It's worth the few extra hundred kbytes Keywords: Self-extracting ZOO archives Message-ID: <5452@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> Date: 29 Oct 88 00:35:14 GMT References: <5450@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> <4529@bsu-cs.UUCP> <23402@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: nobody@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU Reply-To: hartung@amos.ling.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung) Followup-To: comp.binaries.ibm.pc Distribution: na Organization: Univ. of Calif., San Diego Lines: 28 In article <23402@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@diablo.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes: > >I don't see any point in being able to extract an archive into a machine >with so little space that it can't hold the archive itself. Particularly >if the cost is that sez overhead is increased. I vote no. >"In the West, to waste water is not to consume it, to let it flow unimpeded >and undiverted down rivers. Use of water is, by definition, beneficial use." >(from _Cadillac Desert_) >Phil Ngai, {ucbvax,decwrl,allegra}!amdcad!phil or phil@amd.com You are missing the point. Lets say you have a 600 kbyte file that has been archived using ZOO, then made self extracting with SEZ, and moved onto a floppy. The self-extracting archive is about 300 kbytes. Later, you want to move the files back. You have 800 kbytes of space left on your hard disk, so there are 200 to spare even after the files you want are moved back. However, to extract the files, you must first move the 300 kbyte archive over, execute it so that it will self extract, and then remove it again. Once it's moved over, there are only 500 kbytes left, no longer enough space for all the files. There's no way to extract everything you want and then get rid of part of the SEZ file to make more room because it can only extract all or none of the files, but not some. Furthermore, the manual task of moving the archive over and erasing it later is an unnecessary chore. --Jeff Hartung-- Disclaimer: "Nobody here really cares what I think anyhow." ARPA - hartung@amos.ling.ucsd.edu UUCP - !ucsd!ling!amos!hartung