Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!ucsdhub!jack!nusdhub!rwhite From: rwhite@nusdhub.UUCP (Robert C. White Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: V.32 will dominate the marketplace (Was: Re: Which is best?) Message-ID: <1245@nusdhub.UUCP> Date: 10 Nov 88 05:38:21 GMT References: <407@telly.UUCP> Organization: National University, San Diego Lines: 87 in article <407@telly.UUCP>, evan@telly.UUCP (Evan Leibovitch) says: > The jury is still out on whether these yet-non-existant cheap V.32 modems > will have superior specs to the 'Blazer. How can you be so cocky touting > the merits of modems which nobody has seen? > > Telebits let me talk to the sites I need to talk to at high speeds. > Tell me how V.32 will change that for the better. > Where is the V.32 superior technology? Having seen/dealt with the V.32 modem at this years TCA convention (which was held in San Diego last month or so) I will now degin to discorse (;-) what the V.32 technology will get you over the Trailblaizer Technology (and vice versa.) V.32 is real(tm) full-time-full-duplex while the PEP system is "negotiated" (my word) full-duplex. In order to get the full 19.2 capacity of a PEP modem you must be able to drop full >3K data streams into the modem all at one time. If you do not drop these huge packets into the modem (or stream many small packets through a large verify window) you will pay turnaround penalities for each packet. To address this, Trailblaizer et. al. started something called protocol-spoofing (most of you know this, but that is for those who didn't). By spoofing a protocol, the modem at each end pretends that it is the distant computer (as far as the protocol is concerned) and simply varifies each packet, and then loads up its own buffer with the data and transmits it using its own protocol. Both ends of the line preform in the same manner. Without spoofing, you might as well have a 1200 (your mileage may vary ;-) baud modem for small packet protocols. Spoofing has several major drawbacks to PEP. 1) Both modems must be programmed to spoof the desired protocol. This implies that "new protocol => new ROM" which can cost you big time, or not be available. 2) Complex pick-up-where-you-left-off type protocols may fail (depending on the spoofing implementation) completely around connect interrupts because computer A knows that packet 2346 got through while computer B never even got 2331, so second call recovery will have a bitch of a time re-sync(ing). 3) Because of point 1, the modem's longevity is tied directly to the manufacturers support and longevity. Why the same draw-backs do not apply to V.32. 1) V.32 is full-time-full-duplex. The same preformance is provided to transporting 1 character as 1,000,000 (per capita) 2) Point 1 makes any protocol concerns (as far as the modem is concerned) moot. e.g. if your software will do it your modem will do it. 3) V.32 contains satalight silencing and crosstalk compensation consistent with international standards. 4) V.32 modems are "transparent, non-intrusive" carriers so they will not interfere with real-time opperations. (encoding and such) NONE of these points will bother any installed base of PEP modems, but the installed base of PEP modems will have its growth stunted. Many large institutions have avioded PEP modems and simply waited for V.32. (Yes, like us, the third largest private instutition of higher learning in the state of california). PEP 19.2 vs V.32 9600 only apears to be a 2-to-1 speed difference, agregate throughput discounts the PEP substancially (for many applications I can think of) towards V.32. Since V.32 does not lock us into any one company or into current technology. If you look to the immeadite future, you will see the re-working of many protocols threatening your horizions. (see "tar wars" and uucp "e" protocol, and "dart," and "gossip," and ...) You may see (depending on who you are) that buying a PEP modem is buying into a dead end street (now). Your installed base may go beyond a "growth slowdown" and start to actually shrivel up. Can't you see the promotions now. . . . [ (in my best political/beer-comercial voice: "Turn in that old PEPless horse, and go with a *standard*, catch the (square) wave; V.32"] ;-) Disclaimer: Ignore the typos and spelling errors; I am being harried right now and this disclaimer is "more expedient" (faster? now where have I heard that before?) than a proofread. Rob.