Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!netsys!vector!nobody From: lars%acc.arpa@bu-cs.BU.EDU Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: I need a second line Message-ID: Date: 29 Oct 88 08:42:00 GMT Sender: chip@vector.UUCP Lines: 44 Approved: telecom-request@vector.uucp X-Submissions-To: telecom@bu-cs.bu.edu (TELECOM Digest Coordinator) X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.uucp (USENET Telecom Moderator) X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 8, issue 166, message 5 > From: sultra!dtynan@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Der Tynan) > Reply-To: TELECOM@bu-cs.BU.EDU > Subject: I need a second line... > Date: 11 Oct 88 01:40:35 GMT > > ... I would like to have a separate line for [my] modem. I called > Pacific Bell (the local phone company), expecting a simple order request. > It turns out that the apartment building is not wired for two lines (how > short-sighted can you get!). PacBell will put in a second line, if I want. > ... they want $45 for the first fifteen minutes [of installation time], > and (I think) $12 for every 15 minutes after that. ... It seems to > me, that if the phone line is ~5K bandwidth, and the actual line to the > exchange is maybe 10K, then I *should* be able to multiplex the line - > PacBell said no. Any comments? Have I got comments !!!! This is outrageous !!!! This is a request for residential phone service: The tariff probably does not allow them to charge you by the hour for installing the access wiring (which after installation will be owned by the phone company). Some phone companies have tried to claim that all modem lines are business service rather than residential service. If this is what they are trying, talk to the PUC and explain why this is personal use, not business use. I have heard PUCs that will allow that a BBS is business service, but even that is the exception. The bandwidth of a metallic circuit is probably more like one megabit; this is why we are moving towards IDSN: 2 twisted pairs is 1544 kbps = 24 voice channels. In analog land, one twisted pair subscriber loop will carry two phone services, but this may already have been exploited, so this is none of your business. (The line belongs to PacBell, so YOU can't multiplex it; they can.) Santa Barbara, where I live, is GTE land, and we complain a lot, but they have NEVER tried to pull stunts like this one. / Lars Poulsen Advanced Computer Communications (Customer Service). My opinions are none of my employer's business if I express them after hours...