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From: chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.sys.mac
Subject: Problems with Adobe Univers bitmaps
Message-ID: <75128@sun.uucp>
Date: 28 Oct 88 16:08:19 GMT
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Has anyone else noticed the rather nasty problems with the bitmaps
for the Univers typefaces on the Mac? I originally thought I was having
problems with Brecher's Font Harmony while turning them into NFNT's, but
that isn't the case. 

Among other problems -- while 65 Univers Bold is supposed to be the bold of 
of 45 Univers light, the information is incomplete, and when you NFNT the
thing, the conversion isn't all there. 

Also, there's a rather major botch with 75 Univers Black. It's the bold of
55 Univers. The NFNT combines fine, but when you try to USE it, it shows up
as bold on the screen, but the system loads UniveObl into the printer, so it
prints out as the Universe 55 Italic -- definitely not what you want. The
Italic option of Univ 55 really prints out the black face, except that in
both cases the screen representation and the printed version are different
enough to make it worthless. 

Add to this the generic resource map botches in the bitmap files that give
F/DAM headaches, and you have some really hosed out screen fonts.

I'm in process of patching my bitmaps back together manually, since I really
like these faces (and OtherRealms depends on). But it's frustrating -- you 
would *think* that Adobe, of all folks, would know how to get these things
right. 

They should just byte the bullet, so to speak, and ship their fonts as
NFNT's in the first place, saving us all this hassle. In practical,
market-share terms, and Mac that doesn't support NFNT's by now isn't very
likely to be buying downloadable fonts in the first place, and they're
really impacting those of us who need the downloadable fonts by sticking to
outmoded technology. 


Chuq Von Rospach			chuq@sun.COM		Delphi: CHUQ
Editor/Publisher, OtherRealms