Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!uflorida!gatech!udel!burdvax!ubbpc!wgh From: wgh@ubbpc.UUCP (William G. Hutchison) Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: Why have FORTRAN 8x at all? Summary: Thank yew fur yur support! Keywords: FORTRAN PL/I kludge Message-ID: <392@ubbpc.UUCP> Date: 1 Nov 88 14:24:57 GMT References: <388@ubbpc.UUCP> <16187@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <599@quintus.UUCP> Organization: UNISYS CS, Blue Bell, PA Lines: 31 In article <599@quintus.UUCP>, ok@quintus.uucp (Richard A. O'Keefe) writes: > In article <16187@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> link@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Richard Link) writes: > >In article <388@ubbpc.UUCP> wgh@ubbpc.UUCP (William G. Hutchison) writes: > >>why is there an effort to make up a new standard at all? [ illogical arguments deleted ] > I just wanted to make it clear that Hutchison was also being sensible. Thanks! Glad to see somebody here thinking with neurons rather than their glands! You understood my point that there is no need to rewrite FORTRAN-77 code just because somebody proposes a "new, improved" vastly more complex "standard". By the way, here is some more discussion on how Algol-60 was "improved": Algol-60 was "improved" to Algol-68 by a committee and the result was an embarrassing debacle. Algol-60 was really improved by Niklaus Wirth: Algol-60 -> Algol-W -> Pascal -> Modula -> Modula 2 -> ... -> ??? Note that real improvements in language design seem to come from individuals or small groups, not large committees! More examples of real improvements (by individuals) BCPL -> B -> C -> C++ Beware of committees of politicians bearing standards! -- Bill Hutchison, DP Consultant rutgers!cbmvax!burdvax!ubbpc!wgh Unisys UNIX Portation Center "What one fool can do, another can!" P.O. Box 500, M.S. B121 Ancient Simian Proverb, quoted by Blue Bell, PA 19424 Sylvanus P. Thompson, in _Calculus Made Easy_