Xref: utzoo comp.misc:3962 alt.bbs:175 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!uunet!nuchat!steve From: steve@nuchat.UUCP (Steve Nuchia) Newsgroups: comp.misc,alt.bbs Subject: Re: Houston bbs's vs SW Bell - more Message-ID: <2642@nuchat.UUCP> Date: 30 Oct 88 14:49:06 GMT References: <2393@turnkey.TCC.COM> Distribution: usa Organization: Public Access - Houston, Tx Lines: 38 From article <2393@turnkey.TCC.COM>, by sandy@turnkey.TCC.COM (Sanford 'Sandy' Zelkovitz): > In article <8992@ihlpb.ATT.COM>, res@ihlpb.ATT.COM (Rich Strebendt) writes: >> In article <3945@homxc.UUCP>, marty@homxc.UUCP (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: >> > In article <3940@homxc.UUCP>, halle@homxc.UUCP (J.HALLE) writes: > Boy, this sure sounds like a sales pitch by AT&T. The first thing that > > The only real bargin that is being made is by AT&T! If BBSs were to be We all have this problem, saying "AT&T" whenever we are talking about phones is as natural as asking for a Kleenex or a Coke. And just as wrong. This fight is with Southwestern Bell, a *former* AT&T subsidiary and now a very healthy independent monopoly with no official ties to momma. The rate interpretation in question has nothing whatsoever to do with AT&T. The long distance rates are identical for business and residential customers so AT&T is completely uninvolved. There a many issues here, and it takes some effort to keep them straight, but keeping them straight is our only hope. By the way, much has been made about the relative cost of BBS and other hobbiest lines versus "normal" residential lines in these discussions. It is interesting to note that cost is *not* the justification being offered by SWB -- their position seems to be based more on consistency. In other words, they are trying to apply business rates so that businesses won't have a selective enforcement case. A further refutation to the cost argument which may already have been aired is that the switch usage is typically greatest at night while overall switch usage is highest during business hours. The switch doesn't have to go home and sleep, so I can't see how we're costing them anything extra there. -- Steve Nuchia | [...] but the machine would probably be allowed no mercy. uunet!nuchat!steve | In other words then, if a machine is expected to be (713) 334 6720 | infallible, it cannot be intelligent. - Alan Turing, 1947