Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!SRI-NIC.ARPA!KLH From: KLH@SRI-NIC.ARPA (Ken Harrenstien) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: SUPDUP (was: telnet vs rlogin) Message-ID: <12442915292.30.KLH@SRI-NIC.ARPA> Date: 31 Oct 88 22:55:07 GMT References: <8810312111.AA09608@uc.msc.umn.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 34 For several days now people have been talking about whether TELNET can support Unix notions like rlogin, and if so, how. Groan. Wheel re-invention is always discouraging to see, especially when the new is worse than the old; I'm not sure if this message will help, but I feel obliged to speak up. There have already been several attempts to enhance TELNET negotiations to support the exchange of terminal type/handling information and to encourage transparency. The most successful that I'm personally aware of -- certainly one of the oldest -- is SUPDUP. SUPDUP is listed as one of the TELNET options in the DDN Procotol handbook; unfortunately, for full details it refers to another RFC which by some oversight is not included in the handbook. I have listed the relevant RFCs below: (RFC749) NIC-45499 18 Sep 78 (Greenberg) Telnet SUPDUP-OUTPUT Option (RFC747) NIC-44015 21 Mar 78 (Crispin) Recent Extensions to the SUPDUP Protocol (RFC746) NIC-43976 17 Mar 78 (Stallman) The SUPDUP Graphics Extension (RFC736) NIC-42213 31 Oct 77 (Crispin) TELNET SUPDUP Option (RFC734) NIC-41953 7 Oct 77 (Crispin) SUPDUP Protocol These (or any other) RFCs can be obtained from SRI-NIC.ARPA either by FTP of the filenames RFC:RFCnnn.TXT or by e-mail to SERVICE@SRI-NIC.ARPA with "RFC nnn" in the subject line. The index itself is RFC:RFC-INDEX.TXT (or "RFC INDEX"). --Ken -------