Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!uflorida!gatech!hubcap From: hubcap@hubcap.UUCP (Mike Marshall) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Morris bashers... Keywords: He's no hero, but... Message-ID: <3481@hubcap.UUCP> Date: 8 Nov 88 16:03:29 GMT Organization: Clemson University, Clemson, SC Lines: 32 Dave Emberson (dre@sun.com) points out how anti-social and ir- responsible Robert Morris was to unleash the worm, and is upset that Mr. Morris is being glorified at the expense of the net (in the form of hundreds of man hours put in by worm eradicators). I understand the point Mr. Emberson is making, but I want to ask him... if HE has known about this hole for four years - why didn't he do something about getting the word out? What has Mr. Emberson done to help me close the hole? Nothing. Mr. Morris has seen to it that the sendmail hole, and several others, are mostly fixed across the whole network. I wonder how many man hours of work it would have taken to fix sendmail, finger and the ftp bug (that wasn't part of the worm, but has come to light, I believe, because of the worm), network wide, under any other circumstances anyone cares to imagine? I wish the network only had people as trustworthy as me on it :-), but you know that there are people out there who will take advant- age of any security hole they find... our only hope is to know about those holes & close them. So, I don't want to applaud Mr. Morris for his poor judgement in unleashing the worm, but I'm glad the holes are fixed now (no thanks to you Mr. Emberson!). -Mike Marshall hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu ...!hubcap!hubcap DISCLAIMER: If Mr. Emberson has spent the last four years trying to get everyone he knows to turn off "debug" on their send- mails... my apologies to him. It just seems to me that the worm issue points out once again that "security through obscurity" is no security at all.