Xref: utzoo comp.protocols.tcp-ip:5279 comp.unix.wizards:12292 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!convex!killer!texbell!uhnix1!sugar!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.wizards Subject: UNIX bashing (Re: a holiday gift from Robert "wormer" Morris) Message-ID: <2186@ficc.uu.net> Date: 10 Nov 88 15:38:40 GMT References: <1698@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> <2060@spdcc.COM> <76424@sun.uucp> <11226@cgl.ucsf.EDU> Distribution: na Organization: SCADA Lines: 32 In article <11226@cgl.ucsf.EDU>, seibel@cgl.ucsf.edu (George Seibel) writes: > In article <76424@sun.uucp> dre%ember@Sun.COM (David Emberson) writes: > >[Matt Bishop (now at Dartmouth)] wrote a paper detailing at least a half > >dozen holes in the Unix system... UNIX in general or things like sendmail that are specific to BSD? > "Congratulations! You just > bought a fine copy of Unix. Don't keep any files you care about on it." [ because we're not going to fix any security holes ] You see, this is the sort of response we're going to get from this sort of confusion. UNIX is not just BSD. The latest release of System V has many security improvements... some of which were apparently made at the urging of Robert Morris himself. Another consideration. Most of the individuals who buy computers run MS-DOS, a file manager and program loader that doesn't begin to try to keep viruses out. It can't, for obvious reasons. For all its faults, UNIX is a lot more secure than the alternatives available to the general public. The typical virus in an unprotected DOS or OS is at most a few K of code... many only a few hundred bytes. This worm required a leader that was nearly a hundred lines of 'C' code by itself. Let's keep a sense of proportion. -- Peter da Silva `-_-' Ferranti International Controls Corporation "Have you hugged U your wolf today?" uunet.uu.net!ficc!peter Disclaimer: My typos are my own damn business. peter@ficc.uu.net