Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!csdev!ll1a!spl1!laidbak!att!rutgers!mcnc!ecsvax!skyler@ecsvax.uncecs.edu From: skyler@ecsvax.uncecs.edu Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Logic and Intuition Message-ID: <8526@spl1.UUCP> Date: 3 Nov 88 20:46:59 GMT Sender: news@spl1.UUCP Lines: 29 Approved: skyler@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu Logic and intuition are not opposites. And I don't think the Lacanians want to suggest they are. We need to distinguish between discourse and language. There is an attitude towad discourse in the West which is often categorized as "male." It is that we solve problems through an essentially adversarial mode--you throw your ideas out and I throw mine out and we fight them out. The one that wins is the best. This assumes that discussion should be a kind of battle and that some things have to win and others lose. Feminists like Adrienne Rich have (rather eloquently) suggested a different view (as have social theorists like Habermas.) This is different from language use. Logic generally involves what Prisig calls the knife--you cut the world up into little categories. That form of logic is _perfectly_ compatible with intuition--you might intuit different categories, or connections among categories. (It is, as you might guess, perfectly compatible with connectionism in ai.) It is not compatible with Lacanian feminists' ideas about language use. They think there are two things which language does (as we presently practice it) which alienate women (or force women to alienate themselves from their own bodies): cause us to define distinctions among the world, to categorize; cause us to the put some things above others, some things at the center and others at the fringe. Does this help? (And those lurkers out there who are far better informed about this than I am, is that a fair summary?) -Trish