Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!dayton!joe From: joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Copyright Info (Was: Re: Version 1.3 is out!) (LONG) Message-ID: <6250@dayton.UUCP> Date: 28 Oct 88 15:23:20 GMT References: <1229@raybed2.UUCP> <3274@hubcap.UUCP> <1825@eneevax.UUCP> <10232@cup.portal.com> <19@ssibbs.UUCP> <756@mailrus.cc.umich.edu> <10435@s.ms.uky.edu> <4493@bsu-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson) Organization: Dayton-Hudson Dept. Store Co. Lines: 37 In article <4493@bsu-cs.UUCP> dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) writes: >This premise is valid, but misses the whole point of shrink-warp >license "agreements": They are not contracts. In the absence of >specific enabling legislation, it takes two parties make a contract. More interesting, those copywrites usually involve something inside that says "before you open me, read the copywrite notice. Breaking my seal implies you have read and will subscribe to the provisions contained therein" or some such nonsense. You're supposed to take the half out to read their f-ing notice before you open up and play with the new piece of software you just spent 2-weeks pay on. So -- in court they would have to prove you READ AND UNDERSTOOD the copywrite. Well, you had to do so before you could open up the package with the disk in it. But then you have to READ AND UNDERSTAND that too, I would think. Never mind the possibility that your 4-year-old ripped it open, or you can't read English very well (works with Miranda -- ought to work with copywrite notices), etc. The supreme court decided that, by Fair Use, people can make tape copies of their record albums for their own use in spite of the fact that the record companies all say this material is copywritten, etc etc etc. Sounds to me like a similar case -- the more stringent copywrite doesn't mean squat, but the companies put it there to make you THINK it means something. It's kinda like the games at the Renessaince Festival here in Minnesota every fall: "Play at your Own Risk". Ha! Someone falls off a haybail and sprains their ankle and you can guess whose insurance still has to pay for it. Or worse, some thief gets bitten by your dog while robbing your house and sues you. -J -- UUCP: rutgers!dayton!joe (Feed my Dayton Hudson Department Store Company ATT : (612) 375-3537 picture Joe Larson/MIS 1060 (standard disclaimer...) collection) 700 on the Mall Mpls, Mn. 55402