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From: hassell@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Christopher Hassell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: A Serious Thought About the FUTURE <============================
Message-ID: <4566@boulder.Colorado.EDU>
Date: 11 Nov 88 00:11:17 GMT
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In article <IXQE0Qy00WAK80MF0d@andrew.cmu.edu> sk2f+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
 ("Seth D. Kadesh") writes:
>and upgrades and rumors.  I thought about the prospect of Apple introducing a
>low cost K-12 Macintosh (the Golden Gate project).  If this project pans out,
>where does it leave all of the Apple IIx users?  And then I realized something:

>6502 series is a considerably underdeveloped chip - the 65816 is only limited 
>the design Apple implemented in the GS.  I don't know specifics (that's why I'm
>in college now).  And then there's the 65832 - and something else (I forget 
>its number is) that is a complete computer on the whole chip.  If anyone reads
>Open-Apple, you know what I'm talking about. 

>     I think its comendable that Apple has decided to consolidate their product
>line.  This was the inevitable outcome (I think).  I just get upset when I see
>the 6502 series going by the wayside.

>   - the MAD scientist!

AMEN!!!  I know of people who consider Macintosh to be the company that
puts out its little Apple line.

Questions: is the 65832 good? is anyone developing it?
           is there any stuff on approval/disapproval of this new paradigm
                 of assembly?

Orphans we may become as Apple's head swells further.  I used to be a 
radical Apple man but Job's ideas couldn't float so now were stuck with
BIG RED.  Commodore now seems to be the 'new' wild line (they've always
made good hardware but @$@#@# software and storage) but *we* will still
be left.   I think there are too many apple users to abandon economically
but, there may be too many other kinds of users.  I think the Apple ideal
should be extended 

(software control of near-everything, near-limitless expandibility,
  decent graphics .. I/O , and general *versitility*)
(a programmer's paradise! <sigh>)

In general the above 'must' fit more into today's speeds/memory/storage
standards and even with new advents (imagine a separate *equal* processor
for o/s stuff and maybe graphics etc..) to break beyond the 
current fads. (i.e. bigger programs, MORE Mhz <they love that<, 
and HUMUNGOUS o/s's with too much mem/too much time taken away)
^^^debatible^^^^^

I know I may sound like an end-of-the-worlder but these things will put
us in a fix.  Unless Apple acknowledges another line somehow, ours will
become a smaller group (still big though!).  Still big though, and 
apple should retain a pioneer spirit and experiment with the Apple II line.

While businessmen shirk at the 'unsoundness' of new possibs a whole new
generation could be built for micros in general, to even outmode the Mac!!!
 (it could forge ahead on connectivity (phone nets) / parallelism etc...)


Things are possible to change but things also can fade away
###### C. H. ######