Xref: utzoo alt.bbs:205 comp.sys.ibm.pc:20921 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!decwrl!labrea!rutgers!gatech!mcdchg!chinet!jkingdon From: jkingdon@chinet.chi.il.us (James Kingdon) Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: BBS Software Summary: B news software does support access control. Message-ID: <6900@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 5 Nov 88 04:33:39 GMT References: <956@galaxy> <5802@hoptoad.uucp> <6569@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <2054@ddsw1.MCS.COM> <109@otishq.UUCP> <2069@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Reply-To: jkingdon@chinet.chi.il.us (James Kingdon) Organization: Chinet - Public Access Unix Lines: 27 In article <2069@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.UUCP (Karl Denninger) writes: >The Usenet software is not bad, for what it is. But it's not a bbs -- it >contains no access control, no security, nothing but the interface to the >net itself. _Everything_ else you get to add yourself. As a matter of terminology, inews, etc. is known as the B news software (well, there's C news, a derivation of B news). Usenet is a group of sites exchanging mail (some of which use notes, AKCS, etc. instead of B news). And of course you could use B news without interfacing your system to any other sites, if you wanted to. B news does contain some access control. Compile news with FASCIST defined and you can make a list of users who should not have access. Recent version also have COMMUNIST which lets you make a list of who should have access. (I hate these names, but I didn't invent them). I don't really know how flexible these are compared with other bbs's. With UNIX, security is provided by the operating system. I don't know what ports to operating systems lacking security provisions have done about this. And if by "interface to the net itself" you mean to exclude "user interface" in my humble opinion rn beats the socks off any other bbs program I've used. It's hard to learn, but easy to use once you learn it (although certainly not perfect). Other programs like vn that work with B news and which are public domain are intended to be less intimidating. Commercial vs. public domain is another issue; I can see reasons for or against using public domain bbs's.