Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!mcdchg!chinet!bigtex!texbell!killer!chasm From: chasm@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Charles Marslett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: RLL Hard Disks Summary: RLL and bus speed are independent problems Message-ID: <5951@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> Date: 30 Oct 88 03:23:57 GMT References: <1541@valhalla.ee.rochester.edu> <584@tank.uchicago.edu> Organization: The Unix(R) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 34 In article <584@tank.uchicago.edu>, ads4@tank.uchicago.edu (adam david sah) writes: > RLL IS unreliable now. Now only because the new generation of machines has > higher clock speeds, which exceed the capability of RLL controllers to > necessarily encode the data fast enough. One friend of mine had to slow > down his AT from 12mhz to 6mhz in order to ensure 100% writing! The results > previously were disastrous. If anyone can confirm this, please reply publicly! > > -A.Sah'88 The problem your friend had is probably due to the controller card not working properly with the bus speed (as you mentioned), but that has very little to do with the drive data encoding algorithms. His best bet to find a controller that works well at the full bus speed is to get one reccommended by the motherboard manufacturer or to try a brand new this year super duper bang up expensive controller (I don't know what the current one is . . . (;-). Seriously, RLL controllers are almost always faster than the MFM ones (and slower than the EDSI drives most of the time, too). They are more often buffered which also speeds them up, and they are newer technology also speeding them up. As a result, they are often configured to run with reduced wait states and this will lead to problems if the motherboard is running significantly faster than an 8 MHz AT -- Everex Step machines are especially bad (good?) in this respect because they also run a funny symmetry clock as well. A possibility is that the RLL controller can be reconfigured for standard numbers of wait states in this case. In conclusion, RLL controllers are about as likely as any others to fail in any particular machine -- but the box maker or the RLL card maker should know enough to offer some reccommendations and/or offer some kind of fix. Charles Marslett STB Systems, Inc. <-- apply all standard disclaimers, we are not chasm@killer.dallas.tx.us in this business yet!