Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!agate!brahms.berkeley.edu!koonce From: koonce@brahms.berkeley.edu (tim koonce) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m6809 Subject: Re: ARTICLE Summary: The Boot List Order Bug is partly hardware Message-ID: <16634@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 7 Nov 88 23:04:16 GMT References: <8811071544.AA29817@decwrl.dec.com> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: koonce@brahms.berkeley.edu (tim koonce) Followup-To: comp.sys.m6809 Distribution: na Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 33 In article <8811071544.AA29817@decwrl.dec.com> akermanis@trco01.dec.com writes: > >Because of this change, I OS9GEN'd a new boot disk. The HD booted just fine >and all seemed well. I tried to write to the floppies, and kept getting >Write Verification errors or you could not create a new boot volume. > >All I did was reshuffle CC3DISK around and BINGO, everything works fine >now. > >Any thoughts on this problem or cure ? > >John Akermanis You've encountered the now-famous Boot List Order Bug (BLOB). It has been partly diagnosed as hardware timing problems. Basically, most coco peripherals weren't really well designed for the 1.8 meg clock speed, so there's marginal bus timing for many things. Floppy controllers seem especially susceptible for some reason. Nobody really knows of a good fix, although specific hardware vendors, specifically Burke&Burke, and Bruce Isted, have been experimenting with ways to lessen the likelihood of problems. Welcome to a large crowd of people with boot-list problems. The only known fix is to re-order your boot modules. A number of articles came down comp.sys.m6809, comp.sys.os9, and the coco mailing list recently about this. Note: One floppy problem that seems to be especially prevalent is failures when formatting. Whenever you put together a new boot, try formatting a floppy disk. If that works, then there's a good chance you've found a good order. Otherwise, try a new boot list order. - Tim Koonce