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From: gandreas@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU (Glenn Andreas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Inside Mac
Message-ID: <539@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU>
Date: 28 Oct 88 20:31:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: umn-d-ub.539
References: <6301@claris.com> <548@poseidon.ATT.COM>
Reply-To: gandreas@ub.d.umn.edu.UUCP (Glenn Andreas)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
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In article <548@poseidon.ATT.COM> ech@poseidon.ATT.COM (Edward C Horvath) writes:
>From article <6301@claris.com>, by drc@claris.com (Dennis Cohen):
>> My opinion of loose-leaf vs. perfect-bound is that for something like IM that
>> I want to keep open next to me while I'm working dictates loose-leaf...
>
>Right on, Dennis.  This, along with the ease-of-update, makes loose-leaf
>my choice as well.  I continued to use my old loose-leaf IM until v.5 made
>it impossible to ignore the march of time (prior to the bound A-W versions,
>Apple had indeed sent out loose-leaf updates to IM: I installed the
>IM-4 version of File Manager right into the binder, where it belonged --
>
>another vote for looseleaf!
>
>=Ned Horvath=

Well, I've got just about all versions of IM - the two volume old loose-leaf
one, the phone book, and a complete set of the bound editions (including the
original hardcover IM 1-3).  And then there is the notebook that I have my
punched copies of Tech notes in.  And none of them are perfect.

I liked the ability to replace things in the old loose-leaf one, such as the
file manager chapter, but I normally use the bound hardcover 1-3 in "everday
use".  It stays open where I want it just find, unlike the 4 & 5, and even
though the file manager, etc.. is out of date, I just look in the newer
ones, usually having to look in all three.  But the problems with the
loose-leaf things is:

	It's big & heavy!  It takes more space open that the bound editions,
	since it has the big binder.  I also have this problem with some of the
	binders that I put the MPW manuals in.  It's heavy, heavier than the
	hardcovered book.  I can set the hardcover on my lap and be able to
	read it while I type, or set it on a nearby chair, without a problem.

	The biggest problem with binders is that they are often a pain to
	close, especially when they are full.  Pages jam, etc...  I realize
	that going to a more expensive "side" binder would help, but then
	that thing is even bigger!  I don't have the space.


Ideally, (and someone already suggested this) I would like to see the thing
in smaller pamphlets (say one per chapter) that would be punched for
storage, but removed and lay flat for use.

Alternately, for loose-leave manuals, rather than the big 8 1/2" x 11"
pages, use those smaller pages that fit in smaller binders.  They are much
less bulky, and work just as well (although they are difficult to
photocopy).  Like the old Lisa Workshop manuals were.  I seem to remember
some Prodos tech manuals in that size as well.  They were small and easy to
find things in, they lay flat, etc...  Everything I would be looking for.


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