Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!rutgers!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!bader+ From: bader+@andrew.cmu.edu (Miles Bader) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NeXT mail system // CMU Andrew System // "groupware" software Message-ID: Date: 28 Oct 88 20:01:38 GMT References: <2463@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> <363@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu> <310@auspex.UUCP> <159@internal.Apple.COM>, <25887@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Organization: Carnegie Mellon Lines: 24 In-Reply-To: <25887@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> bob@allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) writes: > Someone with the Andrew Toolkit (ATK) development group at CMU sent a > note to info-andrew last week. Alas, I didn't save it, so I may be > foggy on the details (not many of which will you find here, anyway). > He described the directions ATK will be taking in the future, > particularly with reference to X11R3. He also mentioned that a NeXT > Step implementation of ATK (ATK layered on NeXT's window system, the > way it is now layered on X11) was in the works. It's actually a bigger project than that, as the port will use objective C (Barf, gag, "NO, IT'S NOT UGLY!") instead of our home-grown preprocessor. The port will probably use a lot of next's toolkit classes (in the interest of consistency with next software) instead of the low-level classes atk itself provided for X. Apparently, the next window system is much less seperable from their toolkit than X, anyway. The port WILL probably be data-stream compatible with existing versions of ATK (so you can exchange structured documents with them). -Miles [Take this message with a grain of salt; I'm observing all of this from the sidelines].