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From: corbet@mead.uucp (Jonathan Corbet)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: R3, or Where have all the flamers gone?
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Date: 8 Nov 88 00:02:51 GMT
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Organization: Field Observing Facility, NCAR, Boulder, CO
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jim@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Jim Fulton):
>What do people like?  What don't they like

Well, I was about to post on this anyway...FYI, I am running X on both
Sun 3 and 4 machines, mono and color, SunOS 4.0, nothing special in Sun.macros.

Complaint #1: xman ignores the geometry argument.  No matter what I put on
the command line, it still wants me to place the window myself.  That makes
it inconvenient to start out of xinit.  It is also impossible to start xman
in an iconic state.

#2: When I select "remove this manpage" in an xman manual window, xman
dies with:

X Protocol error:  BadDrawable, invalid Pixmap or Window parameter
  Major opcode of failed request:  67 (X_PolyRectangle)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0xd00027
  Serial number of failed request:  2084
  Current serial number in output stream:  2084


#3: I have seen xterm core dump when I hit the Sun "L" keys, but it does not
seem to be reproducible.

#4: I wish there were a window-oriented debugger interface, like dbxtool.
Maybe someday when I have some extra time I will try to implement one :-)

What do I like?  I am quite fond of the system as a whole.  I won't talk about
my color Suns, though...:-)  I like the way xinit works now.  I haven't played
with xdm, but it looks useful.  Xeyes is cute.  I like awm!  Xcalendar is
nice, but it core dumps when the pointer enters its window on color machines.
I may try to track that down soon.

Overall, I think it is a very well designed and implemented system.  Good work!

Jonathan Corbet
National Center for Atmospheric Research, Field Observing Facility
corbet@stout.ucar.edu