Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!agate!labrea!rutgers!mailrus!umich!itivax!scs From: scs@itivax.UUCP (Steve C. Simmons) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Getting Even Message-ID: <366@itivax.UUCP> Date: 8 Nov 88 03:03:59 GMT References: <367@execu.UUCP> <265@acheron.UUCP> <1636@pikes.Colorado.EDU> <1016@mace.cc.purdue.edu> Reply-To: scs@itivax.UUCP (Steve C. Simmons) Organization: Industrial Technology Institute Lines: 16 Re all the stuff on the virus writer as good guy vs bad guy: There was a recent fix posted to FTP that closed a hole. It went out on high priority via the same newsgroup as the first worm stompers. It cost me about $100 of my time to apply at ITI, and got near 100% coverage around Ann Arbor within two days. By comparison, the worm cost me 400 user-hours of downtime, and about 50 man-hours of hands-on work by various folks -- and we were never even infected. Both sets of holes were closed. But what a world of difference in how! -- Steve Simmons ...!umix!itivax!scs Industrial Technology Institute, Ann Arbor, MI. "You can't get here from here."