Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!esosun!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!sceard!mrm
From: mrm@sceard.UUCP (M.R.Murphy)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: arbitron program (v2.4.2--last updated 4 June 1987) (HAH!)
Summary: AT&T no longer forwards mail through "att"
Message-ID: <852@sceard.UUCP>
Date: 10 Nov 88 22:50:24 GMT
References: <11697@conexch.UUCP> <807@dcrlg1.UUCP>
Reply-To: mrm@sceard.UUCP (0040-M.R.Murphy)
Organization: Sceard Systems, Inc., San Marcos, CA  92069
Lines: 53

In article <807@dcrlg1.UUCP> zzw0039@dcrlg1.UUCP (Al Ethridge) writes:
>From article <11697@conexch.UUCP>, by root@conexch.UUCP (Larry Dighera):
> 
>> 
>> Instead of "donating their resources to their competitors" [sic], AT&T
>> now uses their competitors computing resources to offer UUCP based
>> E-Mail facilities to their ATT-Mail cu$tomers.  They deny the rest of
>> the UUCP network the ability to route mail through AT&T sites, while
>> expecting the net to allow AT&T traffic to pass through, so they can 
>> make a profit on it.
>>  
>If ATT is going to do stuff like that then why not cut them off from the 
>outside world. It works both ways. Maybe that will wake them up (but I
>doubt it.

I just received the following mail bounce as a result of someone's routing:


[deleted...]
Date: 9 Nov 88 19:57:45 EST (Wed)
From: ucsd!gatech!att.ATT.COM!MAILER-DAEMON
Subject: warning
To: gatech!ucsd!sceard!mrm
Message-Id: <8811091957.AA11068@att.ATT.COM>
Status: R

=======     command failed      =======

 COMMAND: [...deleted]

======= standard error follows  =======


	Forwarding through this system (att) is no longer allowed.


======= text of message follows =======
[deleted...]

Being just a tad frosted at this response from MAILER-DAEMON@att.ATT.COM,
I first thought a standard error follows of

	Forwarding of att traffic through this system is no longer allowed.

and a bounce of the item to root@att.ATT.COM would be appropriate for all
mail and news that originates from att and passes through here.

On sober:-) and considered reflection, a more reasonable thing to do,
it seems, is to mark att as dead in d.AProject. I just looked, and
att isn't mentioned in d.AProject. Comments?
--
Mike Murphy  Sceard Systems, Inc.  544 South Pacific St.  San Marcos, CA  92069
UUCP: {nosc,ucsd}!sceard!mrm     INTERNET: mrm%sceard.UUCP@ucsd.ucsd.edu